I hate it when people counteranswer my replies, with what they believe to be a better tool for the job.
And I hate it even more, when that reply is Joomla, Drupal, ShittyWiki or any other CMS.
And that is mainly because, when I am looking for a tool, I am looking at it from the 80/20 perspective. Always.
I look for tools, that allow me to do 20% of the effort for 80% the result.
And I am not talking only about CMSes, but for desktop applications, even online tools. Who cares if that version has that new shiny feature? It’s a tool, and it must be made to perform, not to be cool.
If you read my TLA vs TNX review, you will understand that I liked TNX simply because it works. No feedvertising, no other crap. Paste the code, submit the site, and forget about the whole thing.
Same goes for pingcrawl for example. Upload, install, and voila, you have deeplinks.
And of course the same goes for wordpress.
Sure, wordpress is for blogging. Sure, other CMSes have lots of other cute thingies.
But why bother with others, when you can rank a wordpress blog in no time?
And I honestly hate Joomla. Everytime I discuss about how much it sucks, the opposing argument is always “Oh, do you know how many great sites are built in Joomla?”
So what? And that makes my reply “Yeah, I know, but yours aint one of them.”
An Irish prick called dogfighter explained so nicely, why wordpress is so great for SEO, that I am going to quote it exactly:
Wordpress is an open source CMS that pings and is used primarily by sites that frequently update with original content. Also, most WP themes are well coded and search engine friendly. All things that Google loves, which is why a big fat wordpress footprint (yes, there is a footprint) is instant rapport.
I also added, that using the google xml sitemaps plugin, and submitting it to google webmaster tools, makes your site reach even 98% indexing.
And another thing, is that in a classic wp theme, every page has a depth of 1.2, meaning that almost every page is accessible from the homepage, making it a spider snack.
I recently had a client, that had an established site in Joomla, and wanted SEO work. It took me a month to tweak and optimize Joomla, with no results. Then I ripped the whole thing down, and spent 2 hours rebuilding the whole site in Wordpress, exactly as it was. A week later, he was ranking 20 spots up.
Mastering tools that require little to no maintenance, allows you to work on multiple projects simultaneously, and paying a small upkeep (in time, of course).
You really need to measure your time as an expense. Price it whatever you want, 1,2,5,10,100$ per hour, it does not matter. When you start factoring in the worth of your time, in every project you work on, you will soon shift to the “fire and forget” tools by yourself.
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October 18th, 2008 at 9:12 am
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December 16th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Ok, I have never used joomla or any other CMS. From what I have read I think joomla sucks. I’ll give it a try and see If you and many other people were right about it.
January 1st, 2009 at 11:06 am
I agree, Wordpress rocks! I have used Drupal, Joomla and Wordpress for CMS’s and wordpress is by far the easiest to get a great site going and to use from a back end point of view. It does lack some things (like an integrated shopping for example), so sometimes I have to use Drupal. Drupal rocks but has a very steep learning curve. I totally hate Joomla.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:41 am
maybe you should go back to flipping burgers :p
February 12th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I find it hilarious how ignorant idiots instantly assume they know everything about me on the internet.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I have built quite a few websites in Joomla, and find it very easy to use.
None of my customers care much about being in the top 20 for anything, they mainly use their sites as a point of presence on the net, but this is interesting.
I have only used WP for a blog or two, what does it have as far as connecting it to a shopping cart?
If I could cut out a large part of my Joomla setup time, which isnt all that bad, AND get nice SEO bonuses, that would be great.
Thanks,
BC
March 12th, 2009 at 10:26 am
So…because you don’t know how to optimize a much more advanced CMS it MUST be the software that sucks. riggghhhtt…
Of course you can never have pings and low link depth with Joomla! either.
Hopefully you can notice my sarcasm, even through the typed words.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I am a Joomla and Wordpress user and I must say I like both…for some reason I decided to Google “I hate Joomla” today and found your site. I always enjoy a nice rant
July 9th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
. . .
After years of hearing Joomla-this and Joomla-fucking that, I am falling to my knees, as grateful as a camel rider without a camel that this time, CMS commentary has not turned into another mirage.
Yes! Joomla! sucks!
Yes! Joomla! sucks, big time!
Yes! Joomla! sucks donkey dick!
Yes! I hate Joomla!
Yes! FUCK Joomla!
Dicktards like Zach sneer at those outside the temples of technology, failing to realise yet again that IT is about information NOT technology.
If I had my way, any IT section that recommended Joomla! for anything less than a million bucks a year revenues would be taken outside, butt-fucked with the entire Joomla! help-file PDF print-out, for months on end, and then, only then, shot in the stomach, to die slowly, causing far less pain than this monumentally, collosally stupid piece of flacidware.
Knee any IT dweeb in the nuts (only guys would push this steaming, pulpitating, nuts and twigs pile of poo on fellow humans) who looks like they are even starting to purse their lips around the J-word.
Short version: unless you have the bucks to pay an entire IT section for the next 10 years DO NOT even LOOK at Joomla! Walk away. Fast. Don’t look back.
Your dickwad IT consultant is RIPPING you off.
Most likely, they will forget to even remind you when your hosting fees are due, and the whole crappy lot will disappear after a couple of years.
Register a blog instead. When your blog income exceeds a million dollars a year, then, and only then, pay someone to install some sort of CMS, but only if you really, really need to.
Oh, and fuck FOSS too, for all the same reasons.
. . .
September 7th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
I’ve spent months trying to have thei shitty fucking joomla crp working and all I got is a broken keyboard and a big fucking waste of time.
What’s written here is true. Joomla sucks and it sucks badly.
They claim they have a forum for support… Well yes it’s true. the only problem is that these forums are full of people with similar problems and nobody with an actual working solution. Th shit works for a day then the next day you can’t log in to th backend anymore and you don’t know why…
These kind of CMS shit is useless and not worth the time spent on it. If you really want Joomfuckingla, be ready to spend 95% of your time trying to fix bugs and problems. The remaining 5% if you’re lucky, you’ll maybe able to try to figure out how to fuck up the whole system again with a brand new stupid module taht won’t work better.
“Because open source matters” they say…
Oh yeah I’m sure it does…
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Haha, this is the first page to come up if you search “fuck Joolma” on Google. I’ve had more or less exactly the same experience as you. Every time I’ve had a client who uses Joomla it’s the same damned thing. Mess around with the modules and components and templates and articles and whoozits and whatsits WITH NO RESULT.
There seem to be a lot of sites out there using Joomla that are very simple but Joomla manages to make them really complicated.
I’m happy to read someone who feels the same. Fuck Joomla.
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Agreed. Joomla blows. We build all our own tools which in my opinion do 90% of the job with 10% time investment. But we’ve also invested time into the development of our tools.
May 10th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
100% agree, joomla is nothing more than a pain in the butt.. I’m currently attempting SEO for a client who has a joomla based site.. oh dear me… what would normally be a relatively simple job is turning out to be a fucking nightmare…
Much like the earlier poster, I’m just gonna end up ripping the whole lot down and rebuilding it in dreamweaver.. I mean, FFS, the site doesn’t even need a content management system, it’s currently only 4 pages long!! what kind of retard uses a shitty CMS like joomla to build a static 4 page site that is only destined to be updated once in a blue moon? – oh wait.. I know, the kind of blagging retard who knows fuck all about SEO or web design… doh!
July 16th, 2010 at 1:41 am
Joomla is a tool.
A BAD TOOL.
July 20th, 2010 at 1:56 am
i use joomla and it is very very heavy and a heavy site is a low ranking site in other words, wordpress and drupal are fantabolous.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:25 am
Oh, thank you, so, it was not just me… The thing that gets to me the most is hearing “Oh, like, Joomla is so easy, and so powerful”. Yeeeeahhh… Easy eh? I feel like puking in my soup when I hear those two words combined: Joomla and Easy.
Listen I’m no techie (at all), but I’m the stubborn and resilient type when I set my mind to something… And I made wordpress work like a charm… Just a few hours, or days later, my posts were indexed, and well, appeared on 7th page, under some massively global keywords, not bad at all…
Joomla? After nearly two weeks of murderous frustration, I finally just had a site online. Now of course I can’t change dick on it like say, the site properties, because “An Error has occurred! Unable to open configuration.php file to write!”. I can’t either install the back-up plug-in Akeeba, because, “Warning! Failed to move the file! Unable to find install package!” etc. etc. etc.
E-VE-RY FUCKING TIME I try to do something there is a problem. Every time you have a question you will have to read tons of docs, that will, basically prompt you to ask yourself 10 more questions (words you don’t understand, procedures you don’t master, etc. etc. etc.) When you are finally desperate you will consider the most outlandish “solutions” (change all the CHMODS to 777… what could go wrong with that eh?)
So unless you are the type who likes to read quintillions of pages of forums and PDF help about something you know little about (a rare breed), or are already a techie, stay away from Joomla, and don’t believe the brochure!!! The idea behind a CMS is to allow people lower tech skills to still access the net / create content, etc. But Joomla does NOT deliver there.
Oh yeah, and finally I’d gladly “go back” to flipping burgers over wrestling with Joomla dumbfuck, at least I’d get some sense of achievement and a wee pay out of it…
September 14th, 2010 at 1:45 am
LOL, wow, you morons are pretty retarded if you can’t figure out how to use Joomla. We use it for our business and we’re a PR1 site and have some of the most advanced modules installed that would put anything you can design to shame. Pwned.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Ok so the main issue with everyone here is that you’re reveling in your ignorance.
it really is amazing that a safety audit for most of you allows you near electricity which is highly dangerous..
but serious if you’re not prepared to learn how to do something then it’s not the fault of that something when it won’t work as you expect it too.
In other words all tech you have to learn… all of it.
an word press is a great tool for blogs, which is it’s intention as a tool for a website it’s not ideal on any level.
October 8th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
hahaha, I use joomla for my clients whom only just want to manage their own thing without a budget so I still score a buck and don’t have to do much so come on, it’s not just about the software but about the money… and it’s easy!
October 12th, 2010 at 4:03 am
I fucking hate JOOMLA
let me get this straight:
dumbasses want a CMS to make things ‘easy’
then why the fuck do I have to fix things for them?
because it’s not easy??
how about you just do shit right you fucking dumbasses and have a site ‘DEVELOPED’ from the ground up?
hell you can get tons of fucking themes for like 20 bucks and hack it up
I understand shopping cart software but why in the fucking hell are youtorturing us?!
I say we go on strike fuck cms altogether
February 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Joomla is an absolute joke. I can – and did – code a complete website faster with PHP/CSS/mySql/flash & AS2 faster than with Joomla. Why? Joomla did not work “out of the box”. Links are broken on the default install (404 errors on the pdf/print buttons).
I do this stuff for a living and wanted to see what the “buzz” was about. Now I know. LOL
March 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
Hey guys!
You you do hate these cms-es so do I))
Select my CMS: http://ajaxel.com and I am sure you would be very happy, I swear!
ajaxel.com (old name: cmssystem.net)
Best,
Alexander.
April 16th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Urgh! What’s with all the expletives. Get your point across without sounding like a bottom feeder this isn’t youtube (is it?!)
So personally I find all these simple CMSs fine providing you don’t want to break out of the Vanilla wrapping then a complete nightmare as you try to shoehorn your alternative vision into the straightjacket not to mention coping with the latest version bug.
In reaction to prices being driven down had the hugely un-original idea of banging out cheap CMS websites for joe average who can then simply edit their content. Of course in this utopian vision we forgot that joe average doesn’t want to edit their content or has any familiarity with standard document editing interfaces. So weeks of chasing content or even feedback on a skin it becomes apparent that life is too short.
So now i’d rather know what is going on with the code from front to back and am back to building the sites from scratch. The sites are faster, have no unnecessary padding and i’m not feeling around in the dark. The price weeds out the tyre kickers and I have greater satisfaction. Having said that as the real technical side is all getting farmed out to China and India we are becoming a bunch of delegators and users. It is getting to the stage where companies that outsource or import skills, whilst no doubt getting more for their dollar should hang their heads because they are shafting their own people (or maybe not if it’s a multinational) down the track. Driving down wages, making large section of the IT sector worthless. Whine whine whinge whinge.
Been in this game for 14 years and would say probably 5 years too long. The future is not building websites Joomla or otherwise.
Anyway i’ll get in the spirit. Fuck Joomla, fuck it right up inside it’s ass.
July 26th, 2011 at 8:29 am
fuck wordprss allos